безвизовый въезд в страны Евросоюза со штампом 4EU FAM

[Georgio]

А что такое family permit и где его взять?

[SCHATZ]

Сообщение от Georgio

А что такое family permit и где его взять?

также подавать заявление на сайте, потом лично на собеседование. Просто там информации меньше собирают и никаких финансовых гарантий не надо.

[Ekaterinburgenka]

Конечно, можно в Англию при наличии супруга, штампа EU4FAM и свидетельства о браке

[Goshka]

Конечно, можно в Англию при наличии супруга, штампа EU4FAM и свидетельства о браке

А можно официальное подтверждение факта?
Ибо супруг, штамп и свидетельство это как раз таки список нужных доков на фэмели пермит в посольстве. Да и при звонке к ним и описании ситуации (см. комплект выше) они однозначно заявляют: вам нужна виза. Потому вот в принципе и интересно, откуда такая инфа о безвизовом.

[sterka]

The replies are listed below:


Stating a visa is needed:

* Czech Republic - dublin@embassy.mzv.cz
* France - chancellerie@ambafrance.ie
* Greece - embgr@eircom.net
* Lithuania - amb.ie@urm.lt
* Slovakia - slovak@iol.ie


No answer:

* Germany - germany@indigo.ie (their website sais it's OK)
* Hungary - hungarian.embassy@eircom.net // resent to mission.dub@kum.hu
* Italy - ambasciata.dublino@esteri.it (address re-confirmed on their website - looks good)
* Portugal - correio@dgaccp.pt // resent original question to ptembasseydublin@tinet.ie
* Spain - embaspan@eircom.net // emb.dublin.vis@maec.es // (their website sais it's OK)
* UK - consular.dubli@fco.gov.uk (address re-confirmed on their website - looks good)


Stating a visa is NOT needed:

* Bulgaria - bulgarianembassydublin@eircom.net
* Denmark - dubamb@um.dk
* Estonia - embassy.dublin@mfa.ee
* Finnland - sanomat.dub@formin.fi
* Latvia - embassy.ireland@mfa.gov.lv
* Luxemburg - emb@luxembourg.co.uk
* the Netherlands - dub-info@minbuza.nl
* Poland - info@dublin.polemb.net
* Romania - ambrom@eircom.net
* Slovenia - vdb@gov.si
* Sweden - ambassaden.dublin@foreign.ministry.se


other cases:

* 4 countries (>>Austria, Belgium, Cyprus and Malta<<) already confirmed this is correct in earlier contacts (=a visa is NOT needed), so I didn't ask again.
* I also sent this email to the Norwegian ( emb.dublin@mfa.no ) and the Icelandic ( icemb.london@utn.stjr.is ) embassies, but I have no clue at all what their answer should be. (They are Schengen, but as they're not in the EU I assume they are not bound by 2004/38/EC.)

http://www.immigrationboards.com/vie...er=asc&start=0

[nikulina]

sterka, ссылка битая
вот это вы имели в виду?

[vc]

Сообщение от Лена 77

также подавать заявление на сайте, потом лично на собеседование. Просто там информации меньше собирают и никаких финансовых гарантий не надо.

та же виза только в профиль.
UK мне напоминает Лужкова, прописку отменили - ввели регистрацию.

[SCHATZ]

Сообщение от vc

та же виза только в профиль.
UK мне напоминает Лужкова, прописку отменили - ввели регистрацию.

Угу. Видимо, не так им без нас и плохо....

[Dincha]

Официальный отчет на тему от 10.12.2008:
REPORT FROM THE COMMISSION TO THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT AND THE COUNCIL
on the application of Directive 2004/38/EC on the right of citizens of the Union and their family members to move and reside freely within the territory of the Member States

3.2. Right of entry

The transposition of Article 5(2) is often incorrect and/or incomplete, and the legislative shortcomings result in frequent violations of the rights of family members, notably those who are third country nationals.

Only seven Member States (CY, CZ, EL, PL, PT, RO and ES) have introduced specific facilities for family members to acquire an entry visa in their legislation. Bulgaria and Germany seem to ensure the facilitation in practice. Five Member States (AT, DK, ES, IE and the UK) do not provide for the visa exemption for family members holding a residence card issued by another Member State.

Additional practical problems encountered by third country family members are caused by the failure to differentiate between third country nationals and third country family members of EU citizens, who enjoy certain rights under the Directive. The latter are still often required to submit a range of documents with their application for an entry visa, such as a proof of accommodation, sufficient resources, an invitation letter or return ticket.

Article 5(4) providing for the right of entry for EU citizens and their family members arriving at the border without the necessary travel documents or, if required, entry visas is often transposed and applied incorrectly. It was incorrectly transposed in Belgium, Latvia and Sweden. Six Member States (AT, DK, EE, IT, LT and DE) have not transposed the provision at all.